so i used the last setup and it sounded neat but i wanted better quality coming out of the player so i tried panzera windows 64 bit portable encoder with ffmpeg flac encoder. i used original flac formatted songs and reencoded with pazera to 16bit and used some high settings with cholesky factorization (better than the others) and then i rencoded the flac with the window setup from previous post and used no signal processing and left the files to 16bit. the sound that came out was better than i thought and it seems the gain on the songs are alot better too. you can never tell what simply one program does and however you might know about flac, i suppose rencoding might mess up the file quality but somehow you cant tell too much but i think the flac songs are handled a little where the original copy can be sort of duped out so that the translation of the hard coded format is formulated different in the signal transformation, so i dont think the quality loss is really the point, just the sort of thing with freac, you get the window function setup option but in pazera you get the cholesky factorization with ffmpeg and you sort of get this idea two different techniques with two different prime flac encoders (libflac and ffmpeg) the quality can come out a little different than picking up on some stagnant elitist sort of single minded role off on one type of encoding method. flac is really the way to go with audio files, very nice format and no way is any other format better for audio players.....